Thursday, October 30, 2008

Excuses, Excuses

Armstrong Teasdale’s managing partner cited the fact that its new home – Centene’s office complex in Clayton – will be LEED certified as one of its reasons for leaving Met Square downtown.

“Technology has changed considerably since we moved into this building. That, and you hear a lot about LEED-certified buildings. We’re very interested in that effort, as are our clients, so we were very interested in being involved in an office building in St. Louis that’s LEED-certified.”


First of all, isn’t remaining in an existing building – even if it is not LEED-certified – be considered more environmentally friendly than moving to a new one? This falls more on Centene than it does Armstrong Teasdale.

And just because Met Square and certain other downtown buildings aren’t LEED-certified, Armstrong Teasdale could have earned LEED-CI (Commercial Interiors) certification for remodeling its space. HOK’s space in Met Square is LEED-CI certified as is Arcturis’ new space in the Laclede Gas Building.

With regards to technology, as part of its upcoming office renovations, Thompson Coburn plans to outfit its offices with the highest technology available, including voice-over IP and video conferencing. Bryan Cave did the same thing when it renovated its space in Met Square a few years ago. So, it can be done – even in Armstrong Teasdale’s current building.

It’s okay to admit that you’re just helping out a major client and received a massive subsidy to go there.

Thompson Coburn has presented some more compelling reasons for remaining downtown:

"From a recruiting perspective, (Managing Partner Tom) Minogue said the firm’s proximity to downtown redevelopment, including the Washington Avenue loft and restaurant district, was another factor in the decision to stay. 'Our young people like being here, which is a very positive thing to say about the city,' he said. In addition, half the firm’s staff commutes from southern Illinois, which was another consideration in choosing to remain downtown."


Anonymous said...

Armstrong Teasdale and Centene are run by scum bags. I look forward to the day they both go out of business and the owners of both are forced to live down in Larry Rice's hell hole. They abondoned St. Louis and I hope all St. Louisans will abondoned both businesses.

JMedwick said...

^While I am frustrated that both located in Clayton rather than downtown, there are worse outcomes. For a region that struggles to even reach the national average in terms of employment and income growth, seeing either or both firms fail would not be a good thing. Besides, Clayton is better than locating in some office park in west St. Louis County or in St. Charles.

As a side note, I think AT signed a letter of intent to locate in the Centene building, but that the negotiations to finalize everything are not yet completed. Is there still any faint hope that downtown could change AT's mind, particuarly with the renovations at 1015 Locust or the new building at 1400 Washington (given the comments by Thompson Coburn, it would seem the Washington site would be a prime location for a firm looking for 100,000 to 150,000 square feet of space).

Vanishing STL said...

As you mention, AT playing the green card os complete BS!. There is no question that staying in an existing building is more environmentally friendly than going into extra space that Centene obviously does not need to build at their new site.

Seth Teel said...

I am surprised there is no mention of incentives. Cities routinely attempt to lure new businesses even within the same region. Thompson Coburn agreement's for another 12 years downtown was aided by city incentives totalling $700,000 including a state-financed $15 million parking garage on 7th and Locust streets. Whats green about a new (Completely Unecessary) parking garage?